- Real Estate
A broad scope of services defines our real estate practice. We take commercial developers from concept to closing, whether it’s a strip shopping center or a thousand-acre resort. Because real estate so often overlaps with other areas of business and legal practice, we work closely with our finance, tax, corporate and business groups, assembling talent that enables us to provide the practical advice you need to get your project off the ground or run your business effectively.
Our team includes the former in-house real estate counsel for a global financial services company who closed transactions valued at $3 billion. Our clients include one of the nation’s largest big-box retailers, who relies on us for negotiating new store leases and site acquisition, as well as a large university, major banks and developers.
Our team works on matters such as the preparation of purchase and sale agreements, negotiation of development and construction agreements, leases, property management agreements, financing and Florida documentary stamp tax and local counsel opinion letters. In cases where projects are stressed, we advise on workouts and foreclosures, and represent title insurance companies and lenders where there is fraud or other conflict.
Our real estate practice has continued to grow every year, even when the industry has contracted. Throughout the business cycle, we bring a value proposition to our practice, as well as the depth and breadth of services that makes us a total-solutions adviser on real estate matters.
“The [real estate] group offers the ‘highest quality and best value.’ They work with developers at all stages of real estate project development and counsel an array of institutional lenders and banks on matters concerning commercial loans. The practice also possesses a wealth of experience handling complex transactions.”
– Chambers USA 2016
Lead counsel to seller in sale of 24 industrial properties located variously in Georgia, Florida and South Carolina in 2016.
The firm handled the real estate and opportunity zone structuring for a $25 million adaptive re-use project for a developer on the west side of the Atlanta Beltline that also involves state and federal historic tax credits.
The firm structured all aspects of an opportunity zone real estate investment, including forming the Qualified Opportunity Fund, of a $50 million adaptive re-use project in Greenville, South Carolina including a brewery, retail and a multifamily component.
Assisted a fund manager in evaluating, structuring, and executing on three transactions that qualified for the Opportunity Zone Program.
Motions for summary judgment and attorneys’ fees were granted in favor of client in a case involving the sale of property.
Extensive experience includes representation of manufacturing companies in the purchase and sale of real property in Georgia, South Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas and Texas, representation of a national billboard company in the acquisition of sites for billboard use, representation of entities in the disposition of surplus real property, and representation of both purchasers and sellers in various purchase and sale ...
Represented owner of property at Lake Lanier in a case involving conflicting and overlapping chains of titles, easements, subdivisions and survey. Special Master issued a comprehensive report and recommendation in favor of client, which was adopted in full by the Court.
Lead counsel in various opportunity zone transactions pursuant to 26 U.S.C. Subchapter Z, including significant office development in south Florida, mixed-use retail and multi-family adaptive re-use project in Greenville, SC and office and multi-family adaptive re-use project on west Atlanta’s “Beltline”. Cumulative transaction value in excess of $150 million.
Successfully defended a family against their landlord. The landlord filed proceedings seeking to recover unpaid rent while our client filed a counterclaim for failure to repair, breach of contract and fraudulent misrepresentation. The Judge awarded the family $4,000 in compensatory damage and ordered the landlord to pay $15,000 in punitive damages.
Represented Georgia Tech in the successful acquisition of 52+ acres of research, warehouse and office buildings. The property will be utilized by Tech as a large expansion to its existing Cobb research campus.
Defended a commercial tenant operating a discount mall in which the landlord tried to impose a month-to-month lease instead of an agreed upon 10-year oral lease. After two days of trial, the jury found in favor of our client.
Represent clients in the acquisition and disposition of multi-unit apartment buildings in Georgia.
Represented numerous national, regional and local banks the origination, negotiation and closing of loans secured by real estate located in Georgia and in providing local counsel opinions.
Represented clients to negotiate settlement of disputes with general contractors.
Represented clients in line of credit transaction to secure financing for future acquisitions of properties.
- Acquisition of research facilities from multinational defense company at U.S. Air Force base by a nationally-recognized university
Represented a nationally-recognized university in the successful acquisition of 52+ acres of research, warehouse and office buildings, to be utilized by the university as a large expansion to an existing research campus.
Experience includes representation of a developer in the formation and development of a master condominium with residential, restaurant and retail units, review of declarations of covenants, conditions and restrictions associated with the purchase or lease of real property, and representation of condominium and planned development property owners in various real estate matters.
Lead counsel to developer for acquisition and construction financing for approximately $180 million Class “A” continuing care retirement community.
Lead counsel to real estate developer in connection with new development of industrial park near Tampa, Florida, in 2016.
Lead counsel to developer in connection with phased sale and co-development of 90-acre retail and mixed use development near Chattanooga, Tennessee, in 2013 and 2014.
Lead counsel to purchaser in connection with multiple acquisitions of distressed, partially completed residential developments in 2013 and 2014.
Lead counsel to purchaser in connection with bulk purchases of numerous single family homes in multiple southeastern states in 2013 and 2014.
Lead counsel to landlord in connection acquisition and development of retail outparcels and negotiation of dozens of single-tenant retail leases for multiple sites in Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio and Texas between 2006 and 2015.
- Purchase, development, leasing and sale of more than a dozen national general merchandise and auto parts retailer sites in Georgia and Tennessee
Lead counsel to developer in connection with purchase, development, leasing and sale of more than a dozen national general merchandise and auto parts retailer sites in Georgia and Tennessee between 2002 and 2010.
Lead counsel to regional residential and mixed-use developer in connection with development of 300 unit multi-family development in Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina, in 2006 and 2007.
Lead counsel to national charter school in connection with purchase and development of real estate for charter schools in Georgia, Colorado, Ohio and Texas between 2006 and 2008.
Lead counsel to receiver in connection with multiple court-approved sales of operating properties in Georgia and South Carolina in 2014 and 2015.
Represented numerous national, regional and local financial institutions in hundreds of loans secured by collateral of all types, including real estate, receivables, and personal property.
Experience includes representation of owners of apartment complexes in the revision and updating of apartment leases, community rules and tenant applications in several Southeastern states, and the handling of various landlord tenant issues, and representation of a property owner in the operation and management of apartment complexes, rental homes and motels.
Represented a joint venture of two nationally recognized State universities in the acquisition and development of a unique shared library facility, and in the closing of a large million bond transaction to finance the construction and operation of the facility.
Represented a global bank in the workout of more than $1 billion in loans and real estate, including loan modifications, collateral foreclosures, and the sale of owned real estate.
Represented a nationally-recognized State university in the acquisition, development, financing and operation of a technology research park located in downtown Atlanta, including in the negotiation and completion of numerous complex lease agreements with technology and medical research companies.
Represented a nationally recognized university in the closing of a large bond refinancing transaction on a downtown Atlanta tower, including extensive real estate lease restructuring.
Success in obtaining entry of an order in a shareholder battle for control of family owned corporations (1) granting interlocutory injunction, (2) granting clients’ motion for appointment of a receiver based on demonstrated deadlock among the corporate officers and directors, and (3) granting motion for citation of contempt based on failure of opponent shareholders/directors to comply with the interlocutory injunction order.
Obtained six-figure jury verdict on behalf of plaintiff against multiple defendants in real estate fraud case.
$4,300,000 loan renewal and extension of hotel company.
$2,378,000 loan renewal of real estate investment company.
Mid–size regional bank $1,069,000 loan for alcohol distribution company.
Multiple acquisitions of retail shopping centers throughout the Southeast for German acquisition and asset management fund.
Foreclosure of Kingwood golf and country club in North Georgia on behalf of a mid–size regional bank.
Sale of Kingwood golf and country club in North Georgia to a third-party purchaser.
Foreclosures, loan workouts and REO sales of numerous commercial and residential properties.
Represented one of the largest outdoor advertising companies in the world in the acquisition of hundreds of fee properties and billboard easements throughout the United States and in the complex financing of billboard and office locations.
Defended mortgage corporation against wrongful foreclosure and breach of contract claim. Client received an award of attorneys’ fees in excess of $30,000.
Extensive experience includes representation of a large national franchisor in the acquisition and development of more than 800 new store sites, in the disposition of surplus property, and in the closing of more than 100 sale lease-back transactions, representation as lead counsel to landlord in connection with acquisition and development of retail outparcels and negotiation of dozens of single-tenant retail leases for multiple sites in Georgia, North ...
Experience includes representation as closing counsel in more than 100 sales of REO commercial and residential property, and representation as closing counsel in numerous closings of commercial property.
Represented a national Fortune 500 banking institution in the $11.7 million construction and acquisition loan to a full-service commercial and residential real estate developer secured by raw land and the proposed construction of a four-story, 75,000 sq. foot multi-tenant office building in Daniel Island, South Carolina.
Represented one of the world's leading foodservice retailers in the rebuild and redevelopment of more than 100 properties throughout the United States.
Represented a Japanese institutional investor/owner in the sale of a landmark Midtown 50-story office tower containing 1.1 million sq. feet of net rentable area for $307 million, which held, at that time, the record for the highest purchase price for a single office building in the Atlanta, Georgia market.
Represented a private equity group in the purchase of a 128,000 sq. foot shopping center anchored by Publix in Woodstock, Georgia, and in the acquisition of a 78,000 sq. foot shopping center in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Represented a leading real estate investor/developer in the acquisition and financing of a 21-story 446,000 sq. foot office tower and in the acquisition of raw land in Midtown Atlanta, Georgia.
Advised client in the formation and capital structure of a real estate investment company engaged in the purchase of retail-anchored commercial shopping centers in secondary markets in the Southeast.
Represented a local developer specializing in historic preservation projects in the conversion of a steel mill to form a medical office condominium development and in the conversion of a school house to form a luxury residential condominium development in Augusta, Georgia.
Represented the nation’s largest owner/operator of economy extended-stay facilities in the acquisition of extended-stay facilities in Georgia and Texas.
Represented national lending institutions and a foreign car manufacturer in the foreclosures of a hotel properties, shopping centers, apartment complexes, raw land and a car dealership located in throughout the State of Georgia during the last down-turn of the economy.
Represented national REIT’s as well as local/regional landlords for ground up developments and redevelopments.
Negotiated approximately 250 leases representing a national sporting goods chain.
Supported client Earth Fare, Inc.’s growth strategy by negotiating the company’s new store leases and other acquisitions. Earth Fare has 40 stores open and operating for business nationwide. The company continues to add stores with us leading new store lease agreement negotiations. Since 2013, we have worked on multiple new store location leases.
Lead counsel for a local developer specializing in historic preservation projects in the conversion of a textile mill to a medical office condominium and, simultaneously, in the conversion of a nearby former school building into a luxury residential condominium development, both in Augusta, Georgia.
Represented Basis Real Estate Capital, LLC with the origination and funding of multiple CMBS loan transactions, which were included in an approximately $785 million securitization. Continues to advise and represent client in quarterly CMBS securitization transaction. Represented lender in the negotiation and drafting of CMBS loan documents for a subsequent securitization.
Represented group of investment entities on the tax-deferred sale of large tracts of real estate valued at more than $500 million. Structured all kinds of tax-free like-kind exchanges of real estate, including forward, reverse, construction and related-party exchanges.
Acted as counsel to lender in a two-tiered loan for acquisition and development of a mixed-use “live-work-play” project. One City Walk is expected to become the focal point for a new city center for Sandy Springs, a community which was incorporated in 2005 and is now Georgia’s seventh-largest city. The project also involves the issuance of bonds through the Development Authority of Fulton County, due to the qualification of the project for a State of Georgia tax ...
Represented BB&T in early 2012 in closing one of the first major post-recession development loans in Atlanta, Georgia. This loan financed the construction of a mid-rise luxury multifamily development in the upscale Buckhead area of Atlanta. The project was constructed in an existing mixed-use development containing the Hotel St. Regis, and involved complex cross easements for parking and documentation of air rights. This transaction was significant as one of ...
Extensive experience includes representation of a large national retail tenant and franchisor in more than 1,300 retail leases, and in the approval of more than 300 franchise leases, representation of numerous national and local operators of retail sale and service locations in a variety of industries and occupying space in shopping malls, strip centers and free-standing buildings, and representation of property owners in numerous retail leases in Georgia ...
Extensive experience includes representation of tenants in the leasing of a 109,000 sq. foot office building and a 61,000 sq. foot office space in metro Atlanta, numerous office locations in the urban and suburban commercial markets of Atlanta, an 18,000 sq. foot office sublease space in Atlanta, a building lease for co-working office and event space in New York, office sublease spaces in Georgia, New York, California and New Jersey, and representation of property ...
Extensive experience includes representation of tenants in the leasing of a 157,000 sq. foot warehouse and industrial space in Utah, a 105,000 sq. foot warehouse space in Ohio, a 103,000 sq. foot office and warehouse space, and 30,000 sq. foot sublease in Tennessee, a 63,000 sq. foot warehouse and manufacturing space in Texas, and a 32,000 sq. foot office and warehouse space in Georgia, and representation of a cold storage facility operator in leasing and storage ...
Extensive experience includes representation of an international airline in more than 100 airport leases, representation of a building owner in a 37,000 sq. foot office and research laboratory lease in Georgia, representation of a solar company in ground leases for solar farms in California and Georgia, representation of a tenant in an 18,000 sq. foot dining club lease in Georgia, representation of a national billboard company in the leasing of sites for office and ...
Experience includes representation as closing counsel in numerous closings of residential property, and the handling of various broker related issues, representation of an agent in the listing and location management of property for advertising and production events, representation of property owners in lease and lease purchase transactions, and representation of a property owner in the sale of property to be developed as a residential subdivision.
Experience includes representation of lenders in the closing of commercial loan modifications, representation of borrowers in the closing of commercial loan transactions, and representation as closing counsel in numerous commercial loan closings.
Acquisition of a former dump site for $42.2 million for a mixed-use project with a $20 million loan.
Acquisition of 46 acres in a mixed-use project for $25 million with a $12.6 million loan
Acquisition of Patriots Point Links Golf Course in South Carolina pursuant to ground lease for $8 million.
Acquisition of the Smoke Rise Golf Club and loan refinance.
Acquisition of 900 acres for $8 million from multiple sellers with a $4.4 million loan.
Acquisition of 120 acres of an island containing a former Civil War battle site for $7.5 million.
Acquisition of 520-acre horse farm for $3.1 million with a $2.3 million loan and a $1.4 unsecured loan.
Acquisition of an apartment complex for $40.7 million with a $37 million acquisition and renovation loan in Atlanta, Georgia.
Acquisition of a Hyatt hotel for $19.8 million in Kansas, and a Sheraton hotel for $9.5 million in California.
Acquisition of a ground lease interest in a hotel for $4.4 million with a $3.3 million loan.
Acquisition of an office and warehouse building for $4.5 million with a $3 million loan.
Acquisition of a steelyard for $8 million with a $5.2 million loan.
Acquisition of three boat slips in a marina for $1 million.
Sale of membership interests for $15 million to convey 30 acres.
Sale of Bella Collina Golf Course in Florida for $10 million.
More that 125 sales of foreclosed properties for First Citizens Bank.
$46.2 million workout of seven loans with cross-collateralization.
Foreclosure of a $35 million and $25 million retail-condominium project.
$8.15 million loan with five junior mortgages on Smoke Rise Golf & Country Club in Georgia.
More than 75 loan modifications for the FDIC as receiver for Silverton Bank.
$30 million contract and due diligence for the Pete Dye Golf Club in WV, eight lodges, and 1,200 acres.
$35 million contract, $20 million option, and a $14 contract and due diligence for 850 acres.
$75 million contract and due diligence for 90 acres on the Pacific Ocean.
$76 million loan, $65 million construction loan, and a $23 million mezzanine loan for condominiums.
$35 million permanent loans for student housing in Kentucky and Georgia.
$20 million loan (with a $3 million revolving line of credit) on 11 properties.
$16 million revolving line of credit secured by accounts receivable and six properties.
Representative leases: 113,000 sq. foot industrial and office, 61,000 sq. foot industrial, 55,000 sq. foot office, 44,000 sq. foot retail, and 17,000 sq. foot retail.
Multiple leases for tenants in office buildings, shopping centers, and industrial parks.
Landlord's counsel for all office leases for a 284,000 sq. foot project in Atlanta, Georgia.
Landlord's counsel for all industrial and warehouse leases for 247,000 sq. foot project in Atlanta, Georgia.
Negotiation of a 115,000 sq. foot industrial and office lease.
Represented tenant in 52,000 sq. foot lease for an industrial property in Tennessee.
Negotiation of a 435,500 sq. foot office and warehouse lease.
Represented tenant in 41,000 sq. foot lease for medical space and surgery center in Atlanta, Georgia.
Represented tenant in 27,500 sq. foot lease for a Haverty's furniture store in Tennessee.
Represented tenant in 17,000 sq. foot lease for retail place in Atlanta, Georgia.
Represented landlord in 57,500 sq. foot lease for office in Indianapolis.
Represented landlord in 36,000 sq. foot lease for industrial warehouse/office in Atlanta, Georgia.
Represented landlord in 35,700 sq. foot lease for office in Atlanta, Georgia.
$273 million construction loan on Reuters Building in Times Square
$182.5 million construction loan on Westin Hotel in Times Square, New York City, New York.
$162.5 million loan on office building in New Jersey (co-lender with Northwestern Mutual).
$100 million revolving credit facility secured by four properties.
$44 million construction loan on apartments in Florida.
$43.4 million loan on 12 apartments in four states with cross-collateralization and financial covenants.
$27 million loan on shopping center in Florida.
More than 200 loans totaling $2.95 billion on retail, office buildings, industrial buildings, and apartments. The entire eastern third of the United States.
Acquisition of timberlands in Georgia and Florida for $133 million for commingled pension fund account.
Acquisition by timber deed for $61.6 million and $33 million for commingled pension fund account in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida.
Acquisition of three industrial buildings for $13.3 million in Atlanta, Georgia.
Acquisition of raw land for $12 million for industrial development in Florida.
Sale of an office building for $27.5 million.
Sale of timberlands for $16 million for commingled pension fund account.
Sale of Hyatt Hotel for $14 million.
Negotiation of a 60,000 sq. foot office lease.
75,000 sq. foot tenant in an industrial complex.
Multiple leases for offices, retail, and industrial properties.
$27 million workout of an apartment loan.
$16 million workout of an office loan.
Raw land development for industrial distribution center in Florida.
Represented tenant in 434,998 sq. foot lease for office and warehouse in Toronto.
$16 million revolving loan secured by accounts receivable and six properties.
$12.5 million loan secured by multiple Taco Bell locations.
Modification of more than 75 loans for the FDIC as receiver for various banks.
Served as counsel for a student-housing developer in the acquisition and development of three projects. Negotiated construction loans in the amount of $32 million, $27 million, and $15 million. One of the projects was partially funded by development bonds from the City of Louisville. In 2014, refinance two of the properties with a $35 million permanent loan.
Represented clients in the preparation and registration of developments under the Federal Interstate Land Sales Act.
Represented individual real estate broker and company and assisted in nonbinding arbitration resulting in a defense verdict of a residential real estate dispute involving allegations of fraud and breach of duty.
Representation of a full service steel center in connection with a steel business plant acquisition and approximately $3 million working line of credit.
Representation of a master distributor of weld fittings, flanges and forged steel in a $23 million ABL credit facility.
Represented specialty finance company lender in connection with structuring, negotiation and documentation of several commercial real estate secured loan transactions, primarily in the Southeastern United States.
Represented Wellons Group, a manufacturer and operator of renewable energy co-generation systems using biomass as fuel. Wellons enters business relationships with industrial facilities with needs for steam and electricity usage whereby Wellons enters into leasing, financing, and power purchase agreements with those facility owners for purposes of Wellons’ establishment and operation of biomass-fuelled co-generation systems on the facility owner’s ...
Lead counsel to Georgia-based private fund in connection with acquisition and financing of $23.5 million multi-family portfolio of five properties in Tennessee and Georgia in 2015.
Lead counsel to developer of 90 unit multifamily “Beltline” project on East side of Atlanta in 2015.
Lead counsel to Georgia-based private fund in connection with acquisition and financing of $13 million multi-family property in Nashville, Tennessee, in 2015.
Experience includes representation as real estate counsel for a large national retail franchisor, representation of restaurant operators in the purchase and sale of business assets of franchise locations in Georgia and Florida, and representation of franchisees in the negotiation of new franchises and termination of existing franchises.
Lead counsel to real estate developer in connection with disposition of multiple office buildings in Norcross, Georgia. Transaction value in excess of $18 million in 2014.
Lead counsel to regional commercial real estate developer in connection with purchase of 175,000 square feet of office buildings in Gwinnett County, Georgia, in 2014.
Lead counsel to private real estate investment firm in connection with sale of 300,000 square feet of office buildings in Gwinnett County, Georgia, in 2014.
Lead counsel to national cold storage company in connection with acquisition of 4.7 million cubic foot facility in Louisiana under lease purchase option from national food conglomerate, including negotiation of complex easement agreements regarding interface of adjoining plant facilities between business partners in 2013.
Lead local counsel to national cold storage company in connection with refinance of 592,000-square-foot facility in Atlanta, Georgia, in 2013.
Lead counsel to lender in connection with $15 million real estate loan to national petroleum retailer secured by multiple sites in Georgia in 2013.
Lead counsel to lender in connection with $6 million real estate and operating loan to manufacturer-distributor in Atlanta, Georgia, in 2013.
Lead counsel to private real estate investment fund in connection with due diligence and proposed acquisition of portfolio of 400 single family homes in Florida and Texas under low income tax credit financing regime in 2013.
Lead counsel to local real estate development organization in connection with acquisition, refinance and sale of multi-family development in Atlanta, Georgia, in 2012.
Lead counsel to regional developer in connection with development of 350 unit multi-family portion of mixed-use development in metropolitan Atlanta, Georgia, in 2009.
Lead counsel to seller in connection with sale of food processing manufacturing plant in Atlanta, Georgia in 2006.
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